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Explore the promise, power and profound questions of the AI age.
Whose imagination do you want to live in? In this new series, bestselling biographer Walter Isaacson sits down with the most consequential names in AI and tech to understand the futures they’re racing to build. Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Alex Karp, Fei-Fei Li, Dario and Daniela Amodei, and more open up about their ambitions, what frightens them, how they think about humanity, and what drives them to build so big and so fast. The conversations are intimate, charming, and sometimes chilling. But mostly, they’re impossible to dismiss.
Garry Tan Decides Who Gets to Build the Future
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Mustafa Suleyman: AI Should Serve Humanity, Not Replace It.
Dario and Daniela Amodei on The Rise of Superintelligent AI, the End of Human Control & Humanity’s Fate
Elon Musk: “Humans Won’t be in Control”
Peter Thiel: “We Need to Hit the Accelerator As Hard As Possible on AI”
After the Builders on TechStuff
Episodes three and four of The Builders with Walter Isaacson explore two poles of the AI safety debate through interviews with Daniela and Dario Amodei, co-founders of Anthropic, and Mustafa Suleyman, CEO of Microsoft AI.
Joining Kaleidoscope co-founders Oz Woloshyn and Mangesh Hattikudur to unpack these interviews are two journalists who have spent countless hours trying to understand what drives those leading the AI revolution.
Sebastian Mallaby is a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and author of The Infinity Machine: Demis Hassabis, DeepMind and the Quest for Superintelligence. Nitasha Tiku is a Silicon Valley culture and AI reporter for The Washington Post… and may have read every manifesto Dario Amodei has produced.
Listen to hear what they make of the Amodei siblings’ dynamic, Mustafa’s views on AI consciousness, and the competing visions shaping AI’s future.
Curious how those chronicling Elon Musk and Peter Thiel are feeling about their appearances on The Builders? Ther’s an episode of TechStuff for that.
Host Oz Woloshyn is joined by his Kaleidoscope co-founder Mangesh Hattikudur to talk about how The Builders with Walter Isaacson… and how all the high-profile interview featured in the podcast came together. Joining them to break down these rare conversations are two journalists who have covered Elon Musk and Peter Thiel for years: Max Chafkin, Bloomberg Businessweek columnist and author of “The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and the Rise of the Silicon Valley Oligarchs,” and Faiz Siddiqui, a technology reporter for the Washington Post and author of “Hubris Maximus: The Shattering of Elon Musk.”
Listen to hear what they make of Musk’s DOGE regrets and Thiel’s musings on the Antichrist.
